August 14, 2009

Doctrine #1 of La Luz Del Mundo

God's Blessing to you and may the Holy Spirint bring the Light of Truth to our Hearts.

Here is the first of fourteen doctrines that are taught by La Luz Del Mundo. After each doctrine, I have listed scripture verses that address the particular doctrine in question. Please read the doctrine and the verses with your Bible so that you my full appreciate the the scripture in context.

For a full listing of all of the fourteen doctrines be go to my posting "True Doctrines of La Luz Del Mundo" date August 13, 2009.


#1 - “The man of God is the life of our souls.”

John 1:4
1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2He was with God in the beginning. 3Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4In him was life, and that life was the light of men. 5The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.

John 3:14-17
14Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the desert, so the Son of Man must be lifted up, 15that everyone who believes in him may have eternal life. 16"For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

John 5:21
21For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it.

John 6:46-48
46No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God; only he has seen the Father. 47I tell you the truth, he who believes has everlasting life. 48I am the bread of life.

John 6:68
68Simon Peter answered him, "Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life.

John 8:12
12When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life."

John 10:27-30
27My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me. 28I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can snatch them out of my hand. 29My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all[d]; no one can snatch them out of my Father's hand. 30I and the Father are one."

John 11:25-26
25Jesus said to her, "I am the resurrection and the life. He who believes in me will live, even though he dies; 26and whoever lives and believes in me will never die. Do you believe this?"

John 14:6
5Thomas said to him, "Lord, we don't know where you are going, so how can we know the way?" 6Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

Romans 5:10
10For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

Romans 6:23
23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

Romans 8:11
11And if the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead is living in you, he who raised Christ from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit, who lives in you.

Colossians 3:4
When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

PERSONAL COMMENT:

After performing a search of the New Testament scriptures regarding this doctrine's subject of "LIFE", I never once found where any of the authors and apostles particular Peter and Paul, tell their readers that they were the "LIFE" of the church or anyone of the church.

They always pointed to Lord Jesus Christ as the "LIFE". Lord Jesus Christ is the "LIFE" to our spirits while in our immortal bodies and "LIFE" to our future mortal bodies.

38 comments:

  1. Oscar - thank you for visiting my site. It is my hope in Christ that sites such as ours will allow for meaningful exhanges of thoughts about LLDM with those who are members, with love and compassion.

    God's blessing.

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  2. chris its like when jesus lat apostol went to go visit cornillious in his house. what happend when he went to his house. He started to ador him but he told him the only one you ador is god. Then the apostol started talking about the scriptures and the holy spirit came into the house. Cornillious was a noble man, so god sent down his angles to tell cornillious to send two men for the apostol, and he did what he was told. Why do you think god told him to send two menfor the apostol: becouse theres an order--through the apostol he was going to reach salvation, and with salvation there soul has LIFE.

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  3. -gabriel-

    the lord jesus christ is life however he appointed ministers that minister his authority. God is greater than christ and yet why did God tell moses in

    exodus 14 verses 13-17
    And Moses said to the people, “Do not be afraid. Stand still, and see the salvation of the LORD, which He will accomplish for you today. For the Egyptians whom you see today, you shall see again no more forever. 14 The LORD will fight for you, and you shall hold your peace.”
    15 And the LORD said to Moses, “Why do you cry to Me? Tell the children of Israel to go forward. 16 But lift up your rod, and stretch out your hand over the sea and divide it. And the children of Israel shall go on dry ground through the midst of the sea.

    in verse 15 God asks moses why he is calling him. why did GOD ask that? did GOD not have power to part the sea himself or fight for israel himself??? its not that God did not have authority nor the power its that God gave MOSES the authority to use GODS power without calling on God to do it!! also why would God go through the charade of even calling moses anyway??? couldnt he have freed israel all by himself??? God has always had men on earth with his authority!! never has God talked to the people in general!!!! always through a MAN!

    -gabriel-

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  4. Sum only for the true GodJanuary 19, 2012 at 9:42 AM

    Hello Anonymous that is 17 years old. Only Jesus has the power to forgive you for your sins. No man on this earth, no apostil can ever be able to have the power to forgive you except threw the blood of Jesus. It was Jesus that died on the cross to forgive you for your sins. Remember the guy that was next to Jesus on the cross? He was a murderer and he looked and Jesus and he believed that he was the son of God that he is able to forgive him and so he told Jesus to forgive him, Jesus did at that moment and that second he was forgiven. He was forgiven and baptized by the holy spirit of God. If you fallow a religion like LLDM they will tell you that you have to work hard and be baptized in the name of their apostil and they will have you as their prisoner for the rest of your life until they decide if you are forgiven or not. No one on earth can ever decide that except for God that truly has the power to forgive you. If you pray on your own and understand that Jesus is alive today ask him for forgiveness and do not do it again. The lord wants you to repent and believe in him that is why he came to save us he wants you to love him rather then to die in your sins worshiping satin. God bless you anonymous and remember that no one can tell you what to do except for God. Read the bible for your self and decide what God is telling you. If you trust in LLDM they will lead you to damnation with them. LLDM only goes by the teachings of this Man they call an apostil it is not the Teachings of the Lord. The bible says that we only have one mediator between man and God and that is Jesus but LLDM believes that their apostil is a mediator between man and God. That is a very dangerous religion.

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  5. gabriel

    to SUM

    Not accurate once again! CHRIST is the only mediator that LLDM teaches! The show me a video clip or audio Samuel Joaquin teaches the opposite!

    Gabriel

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  6. sum only for the true God.January 20, 2012 at 11:14 AM

    Gabriel I wish you were correct. Everyday I pray for LLDM to teach the truth. With all my heart I want my loved ones from LLDM to have the true teachings but sadly it is not what you say. I know more then what you think I know that LLDM has to have faith in samual or thier is no salvation for them according to LLDM. You sound like a wonderfull loving person but as long as you believe in what LLDM is teaching you will not be on the correct side of God. Why do you think that LLDM will not except and forgive Anonymous that is 17 years old? Think about it God already forgave him but LLDM will never. LLDM can not make a chose for God only God has the power to forgive. Remember what jesus said that if we do not forgive others then he will not forgive us.

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    1. NI al so sorry but, have God answered to your pray? Why not? Ask to your self. Altough The people of God is growing up every day, thanks to the servent of Gos's praying.

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    2. I am so sorry, but, have God answered to your pray? Why not? Ask to your self. Altough The people of God is growing up every day, thanks to the servent of Gos's praying.

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  7. gabriel

    gabriel

    to sum

    hello sum i apologize if i sound like im arguing! i am not i assure you! i seek truth and i did not mean for my message to sound like i was accusing u of being ignorance. i know u read the scripture however there are things id like to talk about with people outside of lldm. you say we in lldm need to have faith in samuel but that is not true!! we need to have faith that he is chosen by god!! our faith is not placed directly in him! we have faith in his election! there are things u and me must consider!! for example can you show me the name JESUS CHRIST in the OLD TESTAMENT? if you cannot then imagine how things were in christ's time on earth when the new testament was not around!! HOW WOULD WE PROVE HE WAS THE MESSIAH? the answer is we couldnt!! it was by faith!! just like today with samuel!

    gabriel

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  8. sum only for the true GodJanuary 23, 2012 at 3:18 PM

    Gabriel
    Jesus already came to die for us and our faith should only be in him. No one can come 2012 years later and claim that they were sent and we must have faith in them. Gabriel it is over Jesus saved us Jesus is our only savior our only mediator and who ever came up with that we need some one today on earth that is a bunch of bull. Jesus is alive today and our faith in him should only be in him and if we were to have faith in anyone else then we are worshiping an idol.

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  9. gabriel

    to sum

    show me proof of that! the scripture sais in

    mathew 23:9

    "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven"

    However in 1 corinthians 4:15 The Apostle Paul states:

    15For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

    is the Apostle Paul speaking blasphemy in saying he is the FATHER of the believers in corinthian??? He even said "I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU" near the end.

    Explain how the Apostle takes that AUTHORITY in his Hands plz

    Gabriel

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  10. gabriel

    to sum

    and another thing, lldm does not put our faith in the apostle. we have faith in his election. our faith is soley in God and his son Jesus Christ. idk where u got that idea that our faith is in the Apostle

    gabriel

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  11. Sum only for the true GodFebruary 6, 2012 at 3:05 PM

    :You really think that I do not know what is going on, I am not new at your belief. I know that you have to believe in the apostil to be saved. Only Jesus can save us.

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  12. gabriel

    well you can say you know about lldm all you want but your words say otherwise! im born and raised in LLDM so i know what im talking about! AGAIN we have faith in his election!! we do not put our faith in the Apostle only that his election is from Christ! now...

    mathew 23:9

    "And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven"

    However in 1 corinthians 4:15 The Apostle Paul states:

    15For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

    Explain why the Apostle Paul says he is the father of the brethren begotten by him through the gospel when Jesus Christ clearly states in mathew to call nobody on earth your father...according to you the Apostle Paul i speaking blasphemy!!

    gabriel

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  13. You guys are all wrong. It is too bad that your brain only allowes you to read one verse out of the whole bible that clearly states who is our true savior, who is our God and only Jesus had the powere to forgive sins. By the way I have read all of your songs in the church and it made me sick to my stomack how all you do is sing songs and praises to the apostil. Good luck to your soal and may God show you the true way to salvation

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  14. gabriel

    To SUM

    good luck to your soul? you do not even know me and yet you think you know the condition of my soul. and shouldnt you pray instead of condemning me? so you think my brain allows me to read one verse?? check out my replies in christopher's other blogs and u will see i use entire chapters!! you have not answered my question if paul was speaking blasphemy by calling the church his children and proclaiming himself the father of the brethren when christ sais call no man on earth your father! i cant use entire chapters if all you do is say things like "you guys are wrong" i have heard all the worshiping accusations people make of samuel joaquin and first off do you know what worship is? as soon as you bend ur knee to someone or something and ask for benefits or praise the entity while kneeling or prostrate it is worship! why do u think the apostles in the bible did not allow ppl to kneel?

    now you say only jesus can forgive sins...

    john 20 verses 21-24
    21Then said Jesus to them again, Peace be unto you: as my Father hath sent me, even so send I you.

    22And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

    23Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

    what did jesus christ mean in verse 23?? lets see if you answer this question.

    gabriel

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  15. gabriel

    TO SUM

    now since you will not believe in what Samuel Joaquin sais i will show u what the Apostle Paul said!

    Roman 2 verses 1-16 it talks about God's Judment! now read carefully about how god will judge and yet...notice how in verse 16 Paul states god will judge through jesus christ ACCORDING TO ""MY GOSPEL"" PAUL SAIS HIS GOSPEL! NOT CHRIST'S GOSPEL BUT HIS GOSPEL!!

    1Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.

    2But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.

    3And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?

    4Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?

    5But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;

    6Who will render to every man according to his deeds:

    7To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

    8But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

    9Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

    10But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

    11For there is no respect of persons with God.

    12For as many as have sinned without law shall also perish without law: and as many as have sinned in the law shall be judged by the law;

    13(For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.

    14For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:

    15Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;)

    16In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

    VERSE 16!! DID PAUL SPEAK BLASPHEMY?? I ASK YOU THIS QUESTION AND I DID NOT GIVE YOU 1 VERSE...I GAVE YOU 16 VERSES TO ANALYZE!! YOU CAN ANSWER OR BRUSH IT OFF AGAIN. YOUR CHOICE MY FRIEND

    gabriel

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  16. gabriel

    TO SUM

    whos gospel did the Apostle Paul preach?? was it Christ's Gospel or Paul's Gospel??

    gabriel

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  17. ~gabriel~

    to CHRIS and SUM

    look at this example of the apostle Paul!

    1 corinthians 4:14-18

    14I write not these things to shame you, but as my beloved sons I warn you.

    15For though ye have ten thousand instructers in Christ, yet have ye not many fathers: for in Christ Jesus I have begotten you through the gospel.

    16Wherefore I beseech you, be ye followers of me.

    17For this cause have I sent unto you Timotheus, who is my beloved son, and faithful in the Lord, who shall bring you into remembrance of my ways which be in Christ, as I teach every where in every church.

    look at how the Apostle sais follow ME! not christ, but ME! and imitate ME! and I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU! why would he speak such blasphemy! because according to all nonmembers it should be blasphemy for an Apostle to say such things

    ~gabriel~

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  18. you can not compare the apostles in the days of Jesus with the guy today. There is no proof that Samuel was sent by Jesus because the bible is already written and finished. Who ever comes and preachers other wise is false. You do not seem to understand the bible in its full text and if you did you would know that Jesus is our only savior, Jesus died for us on a cross and there is no need for me to fallow any man here on earth when I have the bible to tell me that Jesus is here he is alive and he is the only one we need. I am not judging your soul but it is clear by the teachings of samual they do not give all glory and worship to Jesus but mainly to Samuel. We are to humble our selves and when a man like Samuel is having everyone gather for him every year that makes it all blasphemy. You sound like a wonderful person but your religion to believe in Samuel, it will not take you to the truth.

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  19. ~gabriel~

    TO SUM

    listen to what you are saying. the only reason you believe in Jesus is because the bible tells you...ok...what if we did not have the bible? would you have believed in jesus when he was alive?? nowhere in the torah or tanakh or the old testament does it mention jesus christ by name! so would you have believed in him? remember jesus did not say he was an Apostle! he said he was THE SON OF GOD! would you have cried blasphemy if you heard him say that?? i believe in jesus by faith and in the Apostles election! not because of the bible! how many people can burn the bible?? anybody can! the bible is not the living word of God! the Torah was nothing either! it was JESUS CHRIST that gave life to the words written in the torah! just like today it is the Apostle who gives life to the dead words in the bible!!

    ~gabriel~

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  20. ~gabriel~

    TO SUM

    have u never wondered why the bible tells us to "test the spirits"? why would the bible tell us how to distinguish a person from God and a false apostle if there would only be the apostles mentioned in the bible? its because more were destined to be Apostles other than the ones in the bible! if only twelve were destined to be apostles then why would the lord teach us how to tell a false apostle from a true apostle?

    ~gabriel~

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  21. Sum only for the true GodMarch 9, 2012 at 12:40 PM

    gabriel
    Jesus is alive and he has the power to forgive and he gave us the bible i am not going to fallow any one that preaches falsely i am not an idiot to just believe in any one.

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  22. gabriel

    to SUM

    how do you know what is false? ok...answer me this.

    What gospel was Paul preaching, was it his gospel or Christs??

    Gabriel

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  23. The followers of Jesus only preached Christs gospel if they preach any other then they are false.

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  24. ~gabriel~

    ok then the Apostle Paul was false?

    Romans 2:16
    In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

    notice that the Apostle Paul stated that men will be judged according to Paul's gospel,not Christ's gospel! is he false? you can read the entire chapter so you can see that i am not taking it out of context.

    ~gabriel~

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  25. Gabriel you seem to be missing something. well you are trying to compare The gosple of Christ and his apostil from 2012 years ago to this guy you guys are calling an apostil. Sorry but it is just not convincing enough. You can never compare the true gospel of God to this man the antichrist. God-Antichrist sorry it just does not go together.

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  26. gabriel

    to sum

    was Paul wrong in saying that though? i mean if people write entire blogs for the sole purpose of bashing LLDM they should answer the questions we throw at them. was the Apostle Paul wrong in saying that he preached HIS gospel not Christ's? and we are not comparing Samuel to Paul. each Apostle has his own ministry! if in the old testament Israel could not go into the place where the arc of the covenant was kept what makes you think people can directly receive blessings from God without an authority? God is the same yesterday, today, and forever! his ways do not change! he has never spoken directly to his people or the world! he has always had chosen men! always!

    gabriel

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  27. gabriel

    to sum

    colossians 1:23
    23If ye continue in the faith grounded and settled, and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel, which ye have heard, and which was preached to every creature which is under heaven; whereof I Paul am made a minister;

    how about this one can you explain it to me? in the end of the verse Paul said the gospel is preached to every creature (mankind)and states "WHEREOF I PAUL AM MADE A MINISTER" how can you say mankind can communicate directly with Christ when Paul said he was the minister of preaching the gospel to all creature under heaven?

    first you start by saying that no Apostle ever claimed any personal glory nor did they say they had authority, now that i ask you about these verses you say "well you cant compare the apostles back then to a man today" so now do you agree that Paul and the other Apostles did have authority under heaven? looks like the arguments on this blog are falling apart huh.

    gabriel

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  28. gabrial you are so blind to the truth to the power of the blood of Jesus christ. So blind to not see that only by the blood of jesus we are saved. Theire is no proof that samual you apostil is real he is a false apostil and no we do not need any on not on earth or in the heavens above to save us but jesus. Jesus has the power to save us not man. It takes a slow person to actually believe that we need man to be saved. Good luck to you darling.

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  29. Gabriel

    to sum

    well you do not seem to be answering my questions sum. call me blind all you want but you are not using the bible to defend yourself! all you say is im blind! and fyi Jesus was a man too!!

    Gabriel

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  30. Jesus Christ taught that the devil is the father of lies, and those who join in the lie are his children (John 8:44). There is no doctrine in the Church that states that the Apostle of God is the life of our soul. That is a personal feeling that various Christians hold according to their faith.

    Just as you didn't find the Apostles tell my ancient Brothers that they were their life, you won't hear the Apostle of God today say that he is our life.

    -John

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  31. Frank? Where are you?

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  32. to anonymous from september 5, 2012

    how can you say that?? do you not listen to your songs that you sing every Sunday?? LLDM even has a song named "MI RAZON DE VIVIR" translated to "MY REASON TO LIVE" directed to Samuel joaquin! its on freaking youtube!! tal about fanatics!! i am curious..without Samuel what the heck would you do???? lets not forget LLDM'S little celebrity Abdiel Joaquin who has his own studio to make music!! years ago the ministers would make a scene from the pulpit saying only false churches would focus on instrumental music!! OH....wait abdiel is a "Prince" with "royal blood" so he gets a pass!! it is in you hymns that samuel joaquin is the life of your soul!! do not try and say you do not believe that!

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  33. I asked someone who has been in the LLDM for 17 years if I did not believe in the apóstol if I would be "saved" (note -I do not believe I their apostle) that person said no. So I gave the person biblical passages and the person is firm With the apostoles belief saying he has authority.. completely ignoring what the Bible says , we are just people and cannot interpret what the Bible says correctly. If there is no apostle there is no salvation and no church is their belief. It's like trying to break a Rock with a plastic spoon trying to have them accept what the Bible tells us. However then the person says that everything LLDM teaches is biblical. It can't be biblical if the Bible tells us the ONLY mediator to salvation/heaven is Jesus Christ and member of the LLDM reject what has been written for centuries in the Bible- this is the Bible written before any of the "Apostles" from the LLDM existed.

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    1. Failed to add- They firmly believe their Apostle is their mediator for salvation yet the BiBle tells us otherwise!

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