tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post4023518840895639135..comments2023-09-23T04:49:06.187-07:00Comments on The True Teachings of La Luz Del Mundo: A Short Discussion Regarding the History of Aaron Joaquin’s Baptisms.Christopher Tarranthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04426310738218010925noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-14844692644816663272013-06-08T23:42:00.855-07:002013-06-08T23:42:00.855-07:00You are right! Our praise should only be to God, a...You are right! Our praise should only be to God, and at LLDM it is. One time a woman (not knowing) threw herself down at the feet of the Apostle. He told her, "get up," and then said, "don't ever do that again." He has taught us that WORSHIP is only for The Lord. He has taught us to pray in the name of The Lord, to be baptized in his name, and to be grateful to him. Don't believe everything you read on the Internet. We do not pray to him, he has taught us to pray to God.<br /><br />"Honor to whom honor, tribute to whom tribute, owe no man anything but to love." Jesus commands this. Could you agree that honor and worship are 2 different things? Please answer this question<br /><br />It sounds like you may have not been taught a whole lot about the Apostolic ministry which Jesus came to establish with his first 11. Would you like to learn more? The teachings of an Apostle of Jesus Christ are beautifull and there is not a more perfect Doctrine in all of the Land. Here is a first glance, read Ephesians Chapter 3, all of it, you will find this: <br /><br />"Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ; And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ." (Ephesians 3:8, 9 KJV)<br /><br />A mystery to you but not a mystery to LLDM no more. <br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876661079374717612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-10312785248236161032013-06-05T19:17:53.780-07:002013-06-05T19:17:53.780-07:00Yep through their message so we can believe in Jes...Yep through their message so we can believe in Jesus... But that does not mean that person is our salvation.. He is just doing his duty as a Christian. When you start talking to someone who wants to know about God/Jesus you are talking to them about the Bible what you read and know.. So you are passing a message.. So that's through your message. That does not give you the title to call yourself a savior, because you will be taking everything away that Jesus came here to do. Its sad how LLDM members have songs and pray ect. to Samuel when they should be doing that for Jesus.. and i know you are going to say you do that for Jesus but remember all our praise should only be to one. GodAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-91228555025776841972013-05-24T15:22:04.202-07:002013-05-24T15:22:04.202-07:00This is very attention-grabbing, You're an exc...This is very attention-grabbing, You're an excessively professional blogger. I have joined your rss feed and look ahead to in the hunt for more of your fantastic post. Additionally, I've shared your site in my social <br />networks<br /><br />my page ... <a href="http://slc-wireless.com/abercrombie-pas-cher.html" rel="nofollow">Abercrombie France</a>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-58512937008224769202013-05-18T15:20:14.378-07:002013-05-18T15:20:14.378-07:00Fantastic blog! Do you have any hints for aspiring...Fantastic blog! 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Think about this Proverb: <br /><br />"There is a way which seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death."<br /><br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876661079374717612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-50197817455889530012013-02-27T19:23:25.682-08:002013-02-27T19:23:25.682-08:00Keep up the good work Christopher! Thank you for w...Keep up the good work Christopher! Thank you for what you do.<br /><br />God is Jesus in the flesh! John 1:1-14Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-74702847681748986612013-02-27T19:21:56.498-08:002013-02-27T19:21:56.498-08:00Keep up the good work Christopher! We do get an in...Keep up the good work Christopher! We do get an inside into their minds and hearts.<br /><br />God is Jesus in the flesh! John 1:1-14<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-38933881828624312912013-02-27T18:34:22.422-08:002013-02-27T18:34:22.422-08:00You are correct in that I myself having nothing el...You are correct in that I myself having nothing else to comment on, but what I am very happy and grateful to the Holy Spirit for is that this blog as well as all of the others, have accomplished exactly what I prayed they would do. <br /><br />That is they have stimulated discussion regarding these issues and doctrines of LLDM. Giving members a neutral place to post their thoughts and rebuttals and to reference Scriptures that they think support these doctrines. <br /><br />In doing so we all can have an insight into the minds and hearts of LLDM members.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801710284965709619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-80034191160288662142013-02-27T15:08:52.622-08:002013-02-27T15:08:52.622-08:00hahaha cristopher couldn't answer to job porti...hahaha cristopher couldn't answer to job portillo because he doesn't have the truth nor the correct information about LLDM.<br />Hint: If your gonna start a blog on something or someone get your facts straight.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-15818586734064742522013-02-02T13:27:28.659-08:002013-02-02T13:27:28.659-08:00You should pay particular mind about how AAron Joa...You should pay particular mind about how AAron Joaquin and Samuel Joaquin, although through tremendous adversity, (Aaron was almost killed a few times in the name of Christ in a predominantly Catholic state) they still did everything to gratify God first. Also I would like to clarify something my brother Gabriel said in his defense. we are not Gods. But we are created in God's image. What does this mean? yes, we have a soul which God made SIMILIAR to him, because if you read Genesis 1 God wanted beings similiar to him on earth. Yes, we have free-will. In the bible it says we can reach the stature of Christ, but we can only reach the measure of Christ spiritually. If you're wondering where I get my references, it is the truth of the living God in the Apostle of Jesus Christ. Don't forget God is a spirit. Also, I ask you, if anyone had believed Noah, granted God had his chosen people, would more people have been saved? Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876661079374717612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-64212365250047950972013-02-02T13:15:06.259-08:002013-02-02T13:15:06.259-08:00Chris, first of I don't know why you would cal...Chris, first of I don't know why you would call your blog "the truth about LLDM" if you don't know the teachings of LLDM. It saddens me to hear you have abandoned the ark of God. I believe in all your writings you have a common misconception about a simple point of Doctrine, which, being a member of the Church of Christ I have been blessed to receive, and now can share with you. God, has always established a man to reach salvation since Noah, Moses, his Apostles, David, Jeremiah, just to name a few. However, God did not give him his 'DOMINION' over the heavens and earth. He gave Christ his 'Authority' and Jesus gave that 'faculty' to his Apostles (there are so many references I wish I could talk to you instead). With that said, the bible is the testimony of God. Sadly, many men have added and omitted for their gain. But God did not constitute a 'book' to save his people. Back to the Authority on earth, Jesus is the Lord because God gave him all of that Authority. Jesus, is not God because he said, "those who believe in me, believe in he who sent me, the father." You're forgetting that Jesus did not 'have' to be baptized to prove who he was (he knew it) but he did it because he is humble and just. Becuase he led by example to all who would believe in him. But baptism or not, he is still the son of God. John, was granted authority when Jesus ordered him to baptize him. When Paul was baptized, there was Authority by an Apostle already on the earth, so it was very likely Paul was baptized below the Authority of an Apostle in the name of JesusChrist. Now about Aaron Joaquin, you see, there was no 'authority' on the earth for him to be baptized under. Now if you're wondering why he didn't "automatically know" then you haven't paid mind particularly to how Jesus works through his Apostles, like Paul, Peter, speaking to them sporadically at different times on their journeys. John 17:20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me THROUGH THEIR MESSAGE" Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04876661079374717612noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-20368732077954096052012-04-29T21:56:00.900-07:002012-04-29T21:56:00.900-07:00Hey Chris,
So you believe that there is no need of...Hey Chris,<br />So you believe that there is no need of a Man of God in these times? Because from what I know, and is clearly reasonable, that from the very BEGINNING of the PRIMITIVE church of Christ, there was always an Apostle in front of his people. What makes you think that there is no need for one right now?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-73609334460520308622012-04-29T21:17:42.734-07:002012-04-29T21:17:42.734-07:00Christopher,
What congregation or Religion do you ...Christopher,<br />What congregation or Religion do you belong to?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-24893966203485472302012-04-27T21:59:40.960-07:002012-04-27T21:59:40.960-07:00Gabriel
to christopher
first off in 1corinthian...Gabriel <br /><br />to christopher<br /><br />first off in 1corinthians chapter 8 verses 5 and 6 it was not jesus speaking it was the apostle paul! and about the letters of samuel and aaron...what exactly do you want me to cite? now on the topic of the bible it is only an example left for us! that is it! the apostles in the bible cannot save us nor forgive sins anymore! they finished their ministry! just like in LLDM we believe Aaron cannot save us nor forgive us anymore! he finished his ministry! and when samuel passes away and if the lord chooses another apostle then samuel will not be able to save or preach because his ministry will be fulfilled and his letters will be examples that is it! in that time the new apostle will preach his gospel that the Lord will bestow on him...thats IF there is another apostle destined...that decision is up to the lord we do not know for sure<br /><br />GabrielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-5617544374969010602012-04-26T23:00:24.666-07:002012-04-26T23:00:24.666-07:00Gabriel,
While you researching the apostolic let...Gabriel, <br /><br />While you researching the apostolic letters would keep in mind and help to support this statement that was made during the 2008 Holy Supper Convention. <br /><br />"It is because the Lord called Aaron and now Samuel that salvation is again available to men. If it had not been for Aaron Joaquin his son and their restoration, there would be no salvation for the world" (2008 Holy Supper Convention in the City of San Bernardino, CA)Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801710284965709619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-56676590915435696522012-04-16T04:07:26.929-07:002012-04-16T04:07:26.929-07:00Gabriel,
I have a question for you.
LDM teaches...Gabriel,<br /><br />I have a question for you. <br /><br />LDM teaches that the Bible is a dead works of long past and dead prophets and apostles that has no life in it for salvation. <br /><br />Would mind citing from LDM's long list of apostolic letters from Aaron and Samuel to support the new gospel and doctrines of LDM?Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801710284965709619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-37022646299182879512012-04-16T04:04:21.831-07:002012-04-16T04:04:21.831-07:00Dear Gabriel,
You have to consider that Jesus is ...Dear Gabriel,<br /><br />You have to consider that Jesus is drawing a distinction between human standards of "good" and God's standard, it becomes clear that following Jesus is good according to God's standard. And, even if Scripture did not elsewhere abundantly declare Jesus' goodness and righteousness (see, for example, Romans 3:25; Heb 4:15; 9:14; 1 Peter 1:19, etc.), the command to follow Him would proclaim it. Thus, by the very standard Jesus is exhorting the young ruler to measure himself by - God's standard - Jesus is Good, and not by what humans define as being good. And, if Jesus is Good by this standard, Jesus is implicitly declaring His Deity. <br /><br />Further, Jesus elsewhere uses "Good" to refer to Himself: "I am the Good Shepherd" Jesus never define himself by human standards (good), but only by His standard, Good. The measurement of Good is to be sinless, and we know that only God (Father, Word, Holy Spirit) is sinless. So when the Word became flesh as Jesus he was and still is the only flesh that is Good, because He was not born from the seed of Adam, but from the seed of the Holy Spirit.Christopherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16801710284965709619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-65324388769145741802012-03-29T11:49:08.772-07:002012-03-29T11:49:08.772-07:00gabriel
1 corinthians 8:5 and 6 completely shatte...gabriel<br /><br />1 corinthians 8:5 and 6 completely shatters trinity beliefs<br /><br />5For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)<br /><br /> 6But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.<br /><br /><br />verse 6 states that there is only ONE God, the Father! and ONE LORD, Jesus Christ! notice how is never said God the son! However in verse 5 it mentions that there are beings in heaven and earth that are called gods! Christ is one of those beings! however to those gods and to those lords there is ONE God! The father!!! and ONE Lord, Christ! the trinity is a false teaching!!!<br /><br />GabrielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-17283646923133251952012-03-09T17:43:30.368-08:002012-03-09T17:43:30.368-08:00Gabriel
ok so Jesus christ is not God the father ...Gabriel<br /><br />ok so Jesus christ is not God the father but retained his divinity as God while he was a human, if i am not mistaken this is what trinitarians believe! so would anyone explain if Jesus was God in the flesh why was he not omnibenevolent? <br /><br />mark 10:18<br /><br />And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.<br /><br />funny how jesus sais only God is good and yet trinitarians say that jesus is God in the flesh. here christ is clearly distinguishing himself (human) from his father (God)<br /><br />GabrielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-34424291970372040832012-03-09T04:51:25.128-08:002012-03-09T04:51:25.128-08:00The last human being that had direct communication...The last human being that had direct communication with God (the Father, the Word, and Holy Spirit) without any help was Adam. Once Adam sinned he and all of man-kind has not been able to have direct communication (communion) with the Father in heaven. This is what the Word, Jesus, does for us now. He is our only way to have direct communication with the Father in heaven. <br /><br />Was Adman God? No of course not! By Faith in Jesus Christ we become a part of his Holy body. Because we are part of His body the Father in heaven sees us as a part of the perfect and sinless body of Jesus who sits at his right hand. <br /><br />Thru Jesus’ perfect body the Father in heaven hears our prayers and accepts our sacrifices of denying the lusts of our flesh. This how we become joint heirs of the glory that the Father has given to his only begotten Son who is God as the Word and all that I say here is found in Hebrews. Of course we do not become God, but we do become a part of God as a part of the body of Christ. This is the parable of the protocol son returning to the father that the Lord Jesus told of. <br /><br />When the son chose to turn away from his life of sin and return back to the father. When the son came back to his father’s love and home did the son become as the Father? No, but the son was once again able to receive the blessings of the father because now the father could hear his son, because his son was near to him once again. <br /><br />Just as it is with us when we become part of the body of Christ we are once again near to the Father and He can hear our voice of praise and glory to Him. AmenChristopher Tarranthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04426310738218010925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-60585104512217433922012-03-08T20:58:47.231-08:002012-03-08T20:58:47.231-08:00Gabriel
to Jose
amen brother! the bible sais we...Gabriel<br /><br />to Jose <br /><br />amen brother! the bible sais we are CO-HEIRS with christ so trinitarians would also have to agree we are God!! christ calls us brothers putting us on his level! alot of trinitarians do not see this but we have to keep tryng to show what the bible really sais! God bless you! im in texas actually<br /><br />gabrielAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-34985435281262830922012-02-06T20:44:52.905-08:002012-02-06T20:44:52.905-08:00Jose
To Gabriel God bless you brother. I also wrot...Jose<br />To Gabriel God bless you brother. I also wrote to.Chris but as Jake because I was on my brothers computer. You could read the comments me and him talked about. I also gave home the chapter of john17. That the way he thinks when he says that God and Christ r one, trying to prove.that Jesus is God.then that would mean that the apostols were. God. Make things short he stoped commenting and now he started writing. Back. I will also be writing. In his blog. A Bro Wat church do u attend east la. Huntington park south central.which one. I attend south central Bro God blessAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-82353132207778246812012-01-14T17:29:11.145-08:002012-01-14T17:29:11.145-08:00gabriel
check the other blogs by christopher tarr...gabriel<br /><br />check the other blogs by christopher tarrant cuz i comment on them too!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-38764176181648919702012-01-07T19:37:49.966-08:002012-01-07T19:37:49.966-08:00-gabriel lldm-
i read ur comment christopher on h...-gabriel lldm-<br /><br />i read ur comment christopher on how u cited john 20 verse 28 to defend ur argument on how u believe jesus is god however u are not accurate! u seem very knowledegeable in the scriptures and i can tell u have read the bible however analyze what im about to tell u and other people curious about la luz del mundo and its teachings we have learned from samuel joaquin...<br /> to start i can call u a god right now chris! a "god" is someone who makes decisions! when the devil told eve in the garden that when she would eat the forbidden fruit she would become like god knowing good and evil the devil was in fact telling her the truth!!! she did become like god knowing good and evil! our lord god even refers to himself as "God of gods" in deuteronomy chp 10 verse 17:<br /><br />For the LORD your God is God of gods, and Lord of lords, a great God, a mighty, and a terrible, which regardeth not persons, nor taketh reward<br /><br />who are these gods? these gods are u and me chris! God calls us gods and so refers to himself as "God of gods"! if u look at psalms ch 82 verse 6:<br /><br />"I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High."<br /><br />so if u and me who are sinners are called gods then how much more is jesus christ called a god!!! thats why he did not correct people when they called him god!! and also worship has been given to christ under his fathers orders!! phillippians 2 verse 10:<br /><br /> "That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth"<br /><br />as soon as a person bends both his knees to honor someone or something it is worship!!!!! no persons knees should bend for anyone but to christ and to God!! christ humbled himself to the max so God exalted him above everything! these are the teachings of la luz del mundo!!! taught to us by the apostle samuel joaquin flores!<br /><br /><br /><br />para los hermanos de la luz del mundo, no se desanimen hermanos!! ninguno ha contestado la doctrina revelada!! no estamos solos! pidamosle al senor la ayuda para saber como responder a la gente que tenga preguntas de nuestra iglesia!!! dios les bendiga y guarde!!! firmes y adelante huestes de la fe!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8678918965205877711.post-69940287153988404762012-01-07T11:36:34.867-08:002012-01-07T11:36:34.867-08:00christopher ur argument on jesus being god is not ...christopher ur argument on jesus being god is not accurate. this is gabriel so u can adress me as that and not anonymous and im am a memeber born and raised in lldm.<br /><br />jesus christ is not god. the reason he said that he and his father are one is because the jews claimed to believe in god and not christ...christ word of him being "one with the father" meant that u cannot believe in god and deny his son jesus for they are one!!<br /><br />and also jesus said these words in gethsemani <br />John 17 verses 21-24 <br /> "That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. <br /><br /> 22And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: <br /><br /> 23I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me."<br /> <br />going by what you say christopher about jesus being god because he sais he and his father are one in the same if u follow that logic that means the apostles are jesus christ???? no! ofcourse not they are different!! but re-read these verses and jesus sais that he and the apostles are one. ofcourse he meant that u cannot believe in him and deny his apostles!! they are one in christ and christ is one with the omnipotent so, if u believe in his apostles u believe in christ, and if u believe in christ u believe in god!! they are one and have the same authority! thats the meaning of christs words!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com